while it is true that maybe 1 or 2 things woke you up (like myself), it is interesting to reflect on the reality of what you did not believe, even if you were a true believer and would of died for the organization.
here is my list (not a complete list, i'm sure their is more).
what is your list like?.
Like Faye, it was death and resurrection with no hope of any normal happy life. Almost a hell on earth and what loving god would torment any living thing like that? That really stumbled me.
The shunning practice too. I had bad memories as a child of how others were treated and I remember being embarrassed by it.
Belief that only JWs were good people and were going to survive the big A.
gardening is my physical activity thing.
i like to have a productive garden but dot it with a bit of pretty.
the front lawn is around 40m2 and i am converting it to potager this year.
Have been trying for a while to upload 'before' image with no luck. Will give it a try again later.
Possum - would you believe that we have had some heavy frosts but my rhubarb is still growing strong and insanely, while some strawberries have died down, I have a handful of flowers (still)...
Bonsai, I have just shopped around on line and see I can get a ready supply of heliotrope and cosmos so as I have never grown either, I shall do so on your recommendation! Your courtyard sounds amazing!!!
gardening is my physical activity thing.
i like to have a productive garden but dot it with a bit of pretty.
the front lawn is around 40m2 and i am converting it to potager this year.
here is another jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of august 14 :.
25 q. do you accept corporal punishment?
29 a. not not personally, no, and not as an organisation 30 we don't encourage it.
Thank you defender of truth. I must confess that I am a physical book freak no matter how fabulous and convenient modern technology.
"That is why Jesus on certain occasions refrained from giving full information or direct answers to certain questions when doing so could have brought unnecessary harm. (Mt 15:1-6; 21:23-27; Joh 7:3-10)
Evidently the course of Abraham, Isaac, Rahab, and Elisha in misdirecting or in withholding full facts from nonworshipers of Jehovah must be viewed in the same light.—Ge 12:10-19; chap 20; 26:1-10; Jos 2:1-6; Jas 2:25; 2Ki 6:11-23"
Interesting. So Jesus who never told a lie, the mirror image of his father who also cannot lie... are likened to imperfect humans?
We "evidently... must.. view in the same light" Rahab's example? Quite a long bow! There goes that suggestive speech again... "evidently we must view" but in 1975 evidently, it appears that some people misunderstood the WT and misapplied doctrine that WT may have suggested...
since i discovered ttatt, i am always looking for a good book that can help me recover.
if you think you need a therapist but can't get to one, i highly recommend this book: exiting the jwcult- a healing handbook.
the author (bonnie zieman) was a witness for 30 years, then became a professional in psychology.
using a samsung galaxy s4 , the search box opens, but once selected the box diappears.
an older man and wife - ray and mary - got chatting to me today.
they were tourists admiring local wildlife.
i gave them a few tips on where to go to see some interesting things and it wasn't long before they were telling me about how awful the world is "nowadays" and paradise yadda yadda.
Cofty - you probably got them at the best time - holidaying and relaxed - a window that will probably seal shut for the remainder of their years. The only thing you left out was the money grab. Haha. I'm only commenting so I can reinforce the line of questioning at a later date. You're awesome.
Honestly though, I was so sure you met my grandmother Margaret who never shuts up. Got so animated trying to insert herself over the conversation that she slid off the couch like an egg in a pan! Promptly resumed position and never faltered in the sentence.
here is another jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of august 14 :.
25 q. do you accept corporal punishment?
29 a. not not personally, no, and not as an organisation 30 we don't encourage it.
@Defender of Truth
I am after the Insight book vs Aid book definitions of lies.... can you help?
I think this relates to GJs testimony and will be the next dubbins defence.
the cognitive dissonance amongst jws has never been more obvious to me then what i just experience in the last 5 min.
long story short i had a phone conversation w/my mom about some things and i mentioned to her to look up what has been going on with their beloved organization in australia.
brother geoffrey jackson of the holy governing body was caught lying numerous times about several subjects including disassociations & shunning.
hey guys.. not sure if these have made the rounds (tried search feature).. eric posted these on his youtube channel jw struggle.. enjoy!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdxnbdjt8re.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi-tynahp-4.
